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	<title>Comments on: After 40 Years, Flyers Still Goons?</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Caggiano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Caggiano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Hear they even murder bad referees.


(I&#039;m kidding) :0</description>
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<p>(I&#8217;m kidding) :0</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Sudolmeir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Sudolmeir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 17:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in the Philly area during the 70&#039;s and lived in the surrounding suburbs until 2005, when I had to move to the NY metro area. I only see a handful of games during the year but I do get to see most playoff games.

This article is fairly accurate to me. The Flyers do not do themselves any favors with some of the dumb pernalties they&#039;ve taken. And when I watch the games, I see referees making bad calls both ways. However, I do see instance where the referee altered his call based on the players involved. I am not naive to know this is not limited to hockey or to a team. I think it is human nature and the referees are, after all, human. 

I saw two instances in the recent Philly-Pitts series that there was a call that would have been different had it not involved the Flyers. One, Bill Geurin went after a flyer defenseman and began pounding on him withou cause. He was obviously sending a message. But what happened to the &quot;sending a message&quot; suspension rule, that ironically the Flyers incurred on a rather lame call earlier that gsame game? The second and most troubling was the hit the defenseman Timmonen took that was high and an obvious intent to injure? Don&#039;t tell me that if that was Crosby taking the hit from Hartnell it would have also been allowed and deemed clean. No freakin&#039; way, pardon my French

Certainly, the Flyers&#039; reputation from the 70&#039;s was so fierce that it is hard to live down. But one would think by now that would be not plaguing them, but I think there is some merit. And I will remind everyone that the Flyers chose to beef up their team with rough players like Shultz and Seleski and Dupont because of the physical beating their previuos teams took from the hands of team like St Louis and the Plagar brothers.</description>
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<p>This article is fairly accurate to me. The Flyers do not do themselves any favors with some of the dumb pernalties they&#8217;ve taken. And when I watch the games, I see referees making bad calls both ways. However, I do see instance where the referee altered his call based on the players involved. I am not naive to know this is not limited to hockey or to a team. I think it is human nature and the referees are, after all, human. </p>
<p>I saw two instances in the recent Philly-Pitts series that there was a call that would have been different had it not involved the Flyers. One, Bill Geurin went after a flyer defenseman and began pounding on him withou cause. He was obviously sending a message. But what happened to the &#8220;sending a message&#8221; suspension rule, that ironically the Flyers incurred on a rather lame call earlier that gsame game? The second and most troubling was the hit the defenseman Timmonen took that was high and an obvious intent to injure? Don&#8217;t tell me that if that was Crosby taking the hit from Hartnell it would have also been allowed and deemed clean. No freakin&#8217; way, pardon my French</p>
<p>Certainly, the Flyers&#8217; reputation from the 70&#8217;s was so fierce that it is hard to live down. But one would think by now that would be not plaguing them, but I think there is some merit. And I will remind everyone that the Flyers chose to beef up their team with rough players like Shultz and Seleski and Dupont because of the physical beating their previuos teams took from the hands of team like St Louis and the Plagar brothers.</p>
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