This is a Guest Post by Chris O’Neil (who may be joining us an an Olympics contributor – I’ll ask nicely)

(photo courtesy: Phil Walsh - Flickr)
It’s been over two months since I last checked in on Team Canada’s process in selecting its roster for the upcoming Olympics. I felt as though it was in my best interest to put my NHL Centre Ice package to good use and actually watch some of the Team Canada hopefuls in action as opposed to basing my articles on other articles and statistics. In my last article I outlined my criteria for picking a team and also forecasted that the list I came up with would change. I attended the Red and White game in Calgary in August and though I expected to write about it, the game really amounted to a pre-season scrimmage and gave no indication as to who could earn a spot on the team. To put it bluntly; there was nothing worth writing about except for cheap tickets and reasonably priced beer at the Saddledome.
Since August, a rash of injuries has come over the entire NHL. At one point in November Russia’s power play would have been in big trouble without the likes of Ovechkin, Malkin, Kovalchuk, Gonchar and Markov; all of whom were injured at the same time. Canada has also run into some potential injury woes. Ryan Getzlaf was injured to start the season and has not looked as dominant as usual although he has begun to come around in a big way lately. Eric Staal was out for a while and has not looked to be in top form since he returned, Toews was out at one point and Milan Lucic has had two significant injuries and is currently sidelined for a month. Of course with any injury on any team comes the opportunity for others to step up that previously might not have been considered. Enter the likes of Steve Stamkos, Patrick Marleu and to some degree Mike Fisher.
With all of the injuries and new names coming into the fold the debate rages on as to which players will ultimately make up Team Canada’s roster. I outlined my three criteria in the last article: performance, character and experience. While I think my criteria is still appropriate even for young players I wonder how to answer the question;
are these strong starts good enough to knock out those who were considered to be a sure bet for a roster shot?
A fast start to a player’s season is far too easy to use as the rationale for letting this player suit up for Canada against the World’s best. So many factors come into play when a player gets off to a fast start and not all of the factors translate to international success. Is the player on a good team or a good line? Has the player’s team played the top teams in the NHL or feasted on bottom feeders? Has the player been producing consistently or has he accumulated his stats in a few good multi-point games? Could a player like Steven Stamkos light the lamp on the biggest stage the same way he can under the radar of an indifferent public in the Sunshine State? Invariably the answer to giving these players a spot on the Olympic team comes down to whether or not the player can perform in a big game situation.
Joe Thornton
I’ve been having some great conversations about Joe Thornton recently. Is he a big game player or just a big name player? Thornton certainly has been on a tear sharing the lead for NHL scoring with the likes of Gaborik and Kopitar and has more points than sure-fire first line centre Sidney Crosby. Personally I am torn between the two options. I think that Joe Thornton is one of the best playmakers in the game today. His on-ice vision is nothing short of elite, he’s tough, he’ll drop the gloves and he shows the kind of on and off-ice character becoming of a member of the Canadian Olympic Hockey team. However, I do have to concede that Joe Thornton is a big name that hasn’t come out and dominated a big playoff game at the NHL level. Yes, Joe Thornton has put up good numbers in the playoffs. Yes, Joe Thornton has won a world Junior Championship in 1997 and yes Joe Thornton was on the World Cup of Hockey championship team in 2004. The problem is that when the competition gets fierce and the game is on the line Thornton hasn’t shown the kind of individual contribution that changed the face of a game or series. With so many big names to choose from, shouldn’t big game performance also play a big factor in who earns a spot?
In 2009 Joe Thornton is a 30 year old 12 year NHL veteran. Thornton’s ability to produce has never been in question but now as an NHL veteran he’ll be counted on to lead the charge by making things happen when they absolutely need to as opposed to contributing as a depth player. The 2009 Olympic team will be without forwards who were previously counted on to make things happen like Joe Sakic, Steve Yzerman and Joe Niewendyk. I will always remember Joe Sakic’s nearly superhuman effort against the US in the 2002 Gold Medal game and with him gone, somebody has to step up and be the guy to take Canada to the next level in a tight game against an elite team. There is no question that Joe Thornton has the ability to do make something big happen and that Joe Thornton would be the first line centre on perhaps any other team in the tournament.
I would hate to be Steve Yzerman in this situation. Do I not take Thornton because he’s been known to disappear in a big game or do I take Thornton and hope that he becomes the game breaker he can be? The decision is very difficult when you have Cup winners like Ryan Getzlaf, Brad Richards (who also won the Conne Smythe), and Eric Staal along with superstars like Mike Richards fighting for your spot on the 2nd line behind Sidney Crosby.
Joe Thornton is in no way the only player who will be relied upon to change the outcome of a game. Jarome Iginla, Eric Staal, Dany Heatley and Sidney Crosby will certainly be in the same boat as Joe Thornton but all of them have demonstrated on numerous occasions that when the game is on the line you, as a fan of their team, want them on the ice. Is the same true for Stamkos and Toews? Probably. But is probably good enough for the Vancouver games?
If the Olympic Games were in Switzerland or France perhaps ‘probably’ would be enough. But, like it or not, the gold medal that Canadians want most is the Canadian Men’s Ice Hockey gold medal which amplifies the pressure to a level I can only imagine; the most coveted medal for a country being competed for in front of the very fans that covet it. The games are on home soil, the fans know the game, the fans will scrutinize every player’s every on ice and off ice move and will consider anything less than Gold an epic failure. Big games suddenly become much bigger.
For Steve Yzerman there is no shortage of big names to choose from. To win the gold medal by beating the best players on the planet at home, every single player on the team will have to be more than the big name players they already are; they will have to show they are big game players as well. The Olympic Games are not about paycheques, contracts or statistics; they are about winning. Hopefully whoever Yzerman chooses can rise above the pressure to be sure that Canada comes out on top in a big game situation.
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This is an amazing article. Very insightful and well-written.
“I outlined my three criteria in the last article: performance, character and experience” .
Maybe next you can tell us what icing is?
” While I think my criteria is still appropriate even for young players I wonder how to answer the question”
I guess you were sick the day they covered singular versus plural in grade three grammar class?
“I would hate to be Steve Yzerman in this situation. ”
I think the entire country would also hate for you to be Steve Yzerman. You’ve done the most superficial analysis possible without considering any interesting aspects of Yzerman’s decision making process. I hope this thing didn’t take you more than 45 seconds to type.
Thanks for the feedback.
What interesting aspects would you like me to cover that I missed in this article and my last article “Building a Champion”? Can you post a rubric?
I do apologize if my grammatical error offended you.
This is a hockey site – not English Lit!
I think Chris has a very valid point – Can we ever count on Big Joe? His playoff resume is getting harder and harder to ignore.
I enjoyed this post quite a bit. Probably need to do an add-on after what I saw of Mike Richards last night (or didn’t see). What’s going on with him?
So do you base the decision on who is bid name vs. big game on NHL playoff performance after an 82 game schedule plus any playoff games played? Or do you base the decisions who to choose for the Olympic team on performance to date, with consideration of past performance?
The Olympic tournament is a different animal compared to the Stanley Cup playoffs. Players will not be as fatigued, chances are it will not be as physical as NHL playoffs, and they only play 5 or 6 games (all against different teams…besides medal round).
I’m just not sure where this article is going? You said Joe Thornton has won a world junior championship and world cup of hockey…what is your analysis of his play in those tournaments (which may be more similar to the olympic format)? Maybe his is a big game player in those situations, I don’t know….I can look up stats on the internet, but as any knowledgeable hockey fan knows, stats don’t tell the whole story.
Can you give more examples of other players you have scouted this year that are in the same situation?
Brendan,
Here's what I wrote:
I enjoyed this post quite a bit. Probably need to do an add-on after what I saw of Mike Richards last night (or didn't see). What's going on with him?
(and that's all I said about Richards)
Here's your reply:
I guess Mike Richards is out of the question based on one game – according to the previous poster.
* where did I say Richards is out? I'd prefer you didn't put words in my mouth – but if you do then at least make them intelligent.
ps. being such a astute literary fellow, you'd think that you'd understand how quotes work. You put them around something that wasn't a quote.
- “spelling and grammar don't matter because this isn't English lit”. – this was not in my reply…
I don't understand what the purpose of this website is. To give people whose opinions nobody cares about the opportunity to write about a subject that they have no expertise in, and then defend them when people point out things in their work that make no sense?
It's not my fault this is a bush league website with grade school quality writing. If you don't like when people make negative comments on your site then you should try to get bloggers who can write.
I don't blame you for coming to his defense to protect your image, but try to show some professionalism. Also, you might want to learn what sarcasm is and how to understand it.
I base my decision of big name vs big game on both playoffs and international hockey; specifically in big game situations. Vinnie LeCavalier led World Cup Winning team Canada in scoring in the '04 World Cup, while earning tournament MVP.under the pressure and scrutiny of his hometown crowd in Montreal. That's a big game, big pressure player who is having an off year. The article was really meant to quesiton certain analysts who have cast off names like LeCavalier because of a poor start and replaced them with names like Stamkos. I agree that to an extent an international tournament can be different than the playoffs on the surface but try telling that to Joe Sakic, Joe Niewendyk, Wayne Gretzky etc. A big game is a big game and players who I consider 'big game players' are the kind of player that can raise their level break a game open. In the olympics the ability to raise one's game will be essential to success because of the level of competition. My specific criteria for this are a player's ability to create space for himself and linemates when top defencemen are closing gaps and taking away space more quickly than they do in game 12 of the regular season as well as making an individual play that puts your team on top. Remember game 2 of the Pittsburgh/Washington series last year? The one when Crosby and Ovechkin got 3 goals each in a 4-3 Washington victory? Both of those players elevated their games and then seemed to raise their games even more as the game went on and to the point where it almost looked like one vs the other. My use of Joe Thornton as an example was simply because I haven't seen him do the above in a big playoff or Olympic game. There are certainly others in the same category as Thornton like Staal and Mike Richards this season but the difference is that Thornton is a 30 year old veteran who needs BE that big game player. Thornton has to earn the 2nd line centre spot or not be on the team as I think Yzerman wants to make sure that the third and particularly fourth line are shut down guys who play limited minutes but could pot a goal if given the opportunity. With Crosby as #1 and another offensive centre as #2 I would take the penalty killing/defensive skills of Richards and Jordan Staal over Thornton's against he worlds best offense any day. The question then becomes, is Thornton more likely to break a game open than Conne Smyth winner Brad Richards or Cup winner and World Cup MVP Vinnie LeCavalier? I certainly hope so.