THW’s Top 400 Fantasy Forwards


This is the Big List we’ve all been waiting for. Let’s face it, forwards are the sexy picks in fantasy hockey and tend to be more valuable with leagues typically favouring offence.

I’ve made these Big Lists with the simplest of leagues in mind — that being points-only rotisserie. Essentially, I’ve predicted the NHL’s points leaders among forwards from No. 1 to 400.

I realize many leagues utilize additional scoring categories beyond just goals and assists, but coming up with a ranking system to accommodate the various formats proved far too complex. So I went the easy route and ranked all these forwards based solely on point potential, making this Big List applicable to all leagues from keepers to box pools. As a result, the multi-stat, multi-position guys — those who rack up penalty minutes, hits, shots, etc., in addition to points — might be ranked lower than you’d expect.

The keyword with these projections is potential. For example, I’m well aware that only 50 forwards recorded 60 or more points last season. So although these rankings show 110 players with 60-plus potential, I realize the actual number will be substantially lower. But for each point plateau, I listed all of the players that I believe could realistically reach those totals in a best-case scenario.

These are my personal rankings and while I tried to be as impartial as possible, I’m sure you’ll find some instances of favouritism. Perhaps a few Oilers will be ranked too high, or a few Flames too low. I’m also a sucker for potential, so I’ve never been afraid to rank a rookie ahead of a more established veteran — for better or worse come season’s end.

As always, I welcome your feedback in the comments section below and would be glad to discuss any individual players in greater detail.

Without further ado, I give to you my top 400 forwards for the 2015-16 fantasy season:

80-Plus Points

1) Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins

John Tavares Captain
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So if Sidney Crosby is a slam dunk for first overall, who should you take second? There are no shortage of quality options, but I might lean towards John Tavares of the New York Islanders this season. I think he’ll be knocking on the door of triple-digits.

2) John Tavares, New York Islanders

3) Tyler Seguin, Dallas Stars

4) Alex Ovechkin, Washington Capitals

5) Steven Stamkos, Tampa Bay Lightning

* 6) Patrick Kane, Chicago Blackhawks (under investigation, could be suspended)

7) Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh Penguins

8) Ryan Getzlaf, Anaheim Ducks

9) Tyler Johnson, Tampa Bay Lightning

10) Vladimir Tarasenko, St. Louis Blues

11) Claude Giroux, Philadelphia Flyers

12) Jamie Benn, Dallas Stars

* 13) Nicklas Backstrom, Washington Capitals (hip injury)

Connor McDavid
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Everybody wants to know, how high should I pick Connor McDavid? This would be considered an aggressive pick at No. 16, but I think the kid could make you look like a genius. I doubt he lasts past 20th in most leagues, and from what I’ve seen, he’s worth the hype and will almost certainly win the Calder Trophy as rookie of the year.

14) Connor McDavid, Edmonton Oilers (Rookie)

15) Ryan Johansen, Columbus Blue Jackets

15) Jakub Voracek, Philadelphia Flyers

16) Jonathan Toews, Chicago Blackhawks

17) Joe Thornton, San Jose Sharks

18) Anze Kopitar, Los Angeles Kings

20) Corey Perry, Anaheim Ducks

21) Phil Kessel, Pittsburgh Penguins

22) Taylor Hall, Edmonton Oilers

23) Joe Pavelski, San Jose Sharks

24) Henrik Sedin, Vancouver Canucks

25) Daniel Sedin, Vancouver Canucks

60-to-80 Points

(Amy Irvin/The Hockey Writers) If you're looking for a bounce-back player that is sure to be overlooked by your peers, look no further than Nathan MacKinnon. He won the Calder two years ago and then suffered through the dreaded sophomore slump. I'm confident he's going to be a breakout sensation and become a steal for anybody luck enough (or smart enough) to pick him.
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If you’re looking for a bounce-back player that is sure to be overlooked by your peers, look no further than Nathan MacKinnon. He won the Calder two years ago and then suffered through the dreaded sophomore slump. I’m confident he’s going to be a breakout sensation and become a steal for anybody luck enough (or smart enough) to pick him.

26) Nathan MacKinnon, Colorado Avalanche

27) Jason Spezza, Dallas Stars

28) Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Edmonton Oilers

29) Jack Eichel, Buffalo Sabres (Rookie)

30) Eric Staal, Carolina Hurricanes

31) Mikael Granlund, Minnesota Wild

32) Filip Forsberg, Nashville Predators

33) Nikita Kucherov, Tampa Bay Lightning

34) Zach Parise, Minnesota Wild

35) Henrik Zetterberg, Detroit Red Wings

36) Patrice Bergeron, Boston Bruins

37) Kyle Turris, Ottawa Senators

38) Matt Duchene, Colorado Avalanche

39) Rick Nash, New York Rangers

40) Patrick Sharp, Dallas Stars

41) Tyler Ennis, Buffalo Sabres

Johnny Gaudreau
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Johnny Gaudreau was a risky pick for fantasy leagues at this time last year — a pint-sized kid coming out of college — but he rewarded his believers by becoming a Calder finalist. This year, everybody better be on the Johnny Hockey bandwagon.

42) Johnny Gaudreau, Calgary Flames

43) Brandon Saad, Columbus Blue Jackets

44) Evgeny Kuznetsov, Washington Capitals

45) Derek Stepan, New York Rangers

46) Max Pacioretty, Montreal Canadiens

47) James van Riemsdyk, Toronto Maple Leafs

48) Bobby Ryan, Ottawa Senators

49) Nick Foligno, Columbus Blue Jackets

50) Jaden Schwartz, St. Louis Blues

51) Logan Couture, San Jose Sharks

52) Elias Lindholm, Carolina Hurricanes

53) Gabriel Landeskog, Colorado Avalanche

54) Jeff Carter, Los Angeles Kings

55) David Krejci, Boston Bruins

56) Jiri Hudler, Calgary Flames

57) Blake Wheeler, Winnipeg Jets

58) Ryan O’Reilly, Buffalo Sabres

59) Mark Stone, Ottawa Senators

60) David Backes, St. Louis Blues

61) Marian Hossa, Chicago Blackhawks

62) Ryan Kesler, Anaheim Ducks

63) Patrick Marleau, San Jose Sharks

64) Wayne Simmonds, Philadelphia Flyers

65) Kyle Okposo, New York Islanders

66) Sean Monahan, Calgary Flames

67) Gustav Nyquist, Detroit Red Wings

68) Ryan Strome, New York Islanders

69) Jonathan Huberdeau, Florida Panthers

70) T.J. Oshie, Washington Capitals

71) Marian Gaborik, Los Angeles Kings

* 72) Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings (ankle)

73) James Neal, Nashville Predators

74) Ondrej Palat, Tampa Bay Lightning

75) Patric Hornqvist, Pittsburgh Penguins

76) Craig Smith, Nashville Predators

77) Evander Kane, Buffalo Sabres

78) Bryan Little, Winnipeg Jets

79) Paul Stastny, St. Louis Blues

80) Derick Brassard, New York Rangers

81) Mike Ribeiro, Nashville Predators

* 82) Jordan Eberle, Edmonton Oilers (shoulder)

83) Alex Galchenyuk, Montreal Canadiens

84) Mark Scheifele, Winnipeg Jets

85) Milan Lucic, Los Angeles Kings

86) Andrew Ladd, Winnipeg Jets

87) Chris Kunitz, Pittsburgh Penguins

88) Thomas Vanek, Minnesota Wild

89) Jakob Silfverberg, Anaheim Ducks

90) Nail Yakupov, Edmonton Oilers

91) Adam Henrique, New Jersey Devils

92) Brad Marchand, Boston Bruins

93) Mikko Koivu, Minnesota Wild

94) Jori Lehtera, St. Louis Blues

95) Brandon Dubinsky, Columbus Blue Jackets

96) Jordan Staal, Carolina Hurricanes

97) Jarome Iginla, Colorado Avalanche

98) Jason Pominville, Minnesota Wild

99) Alex Steen, St. Louis Blues

100) Mats Zuccarello, New York Rangers

101) Mike Cammalleri, New Jersey Devils

102) Brayden Schenn, Philadelphia Flyers

103) Jeff Skinner, Carolina Hurricanes

104) Tomas Plekanec, Montreal Canadiens

105) Loui Eriksson, Boston Bruins

106) Radim Vrbata, Vancouver Canucks

107) Jaromir Jagr, Florida Panthers

108) Scott Hartnell, Columbus Blue Jackets

109) Alex Tanguay, Colorado Avalanche

40-to-60 Points

(Amy Irvin/The Hockey Writers) Look for Jonathan Drouin to have a breakout season playing alongside Steven Stamkos on Tampa Bay's top line.
(Amy Irvin/The Hockey Writers)
Look for Jonathan Drouin to have a breakout season playing alongside Steven Stamkos on Tampa’s top line.

110) Jonathan Drouin, Tampa Bay Lightning

111) Teuvo Teravainen, Chicago Blackhawks

112) Tyler Toffoli, Los Angeles Kings

113) Chris Kreider, New York Rangers

114) Tomas Tatar, Detroit Red Wings

115) Matt Moulson, Buffalo Sabres

116) Ryan Callahan, Tampa Bay Lightning

117) Alex Semin, Montreal Canadiens

118) Brandon Sutter, Vancouver Canucks

119) Cody Eakin, Dallas Stars

120) Bo Horvat, Vancouver Canucks

121) Nazem Kadri, Toronto Maple Leafs

122) David Pastrnak, Boston Bruins

123) Tomas Hertl, San Jose Sharks

124) Nick Bjugstad, Florida Panthers

125) Mike Hoffman, Ottawa Senators

126) Kevin Hayes, New York Rangers

127) Anders Lee, New York Islanders

Valeri Nichushkin Stars
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Valeri Nichushkin didn’t play much last season, but he’s healthy now and could be a force for the Dallas Stars.

128) Valeri Nichushkin, Dallas Stars

129) Sam Reinhart, Buffalo Sabres (Rookie)

130) Nikolaj Ehlers, Winnipeg Jets (Rookie)

131) Sam Bennett, Calgary Flames (Rookie)

132) Max Domi, Arizona Coyotes (Rookie)

133) Nino Niederreiter, Minnesota Wild

134) Brock Nelson, New York Islanders

135) Charlie Coyle, Minnesota Wild

136) Mika Zibanejad, Ottawa Senators

137) Ryan Spooner, Boston Bruins

138) Cam Atkinson, Columbus Blue Jackets

139) Josh Bailey, New York Islanders

140) Colin Wilson, Nashville Predators

141) Mikkel Boedker, Arizona Coyotes

142) Sasha Barkov, Florida Panthers

143) Michael Frolik, Calgary Flames

144) Justin Abdelkader, Detroit Red Wings

145) Micheal Raffl, Philadelphia Flyers

146) David Perron, Pittsburgh Penguins

147) Travis Zajac, New Jersey Devils

148) Artem Anisimov, Chicago Blackhawks

149) Valtteri Filppula, Tampa Bay Lightning

150) Artemi Panarin, Chicago Blackhawks (Rookie)

151) Sven Baertschi, Vancouver Canucks

152) Jiri Sekac, Anaheim Ducks

153) Joonas Donskoi, San Jose Sharks (Rookie)

154) Sergei Plotnikov, Pittsburgh Penguins (Rookie)

155) Frans Nielsen, New York Islanders

156) Mikael Backlund, Calgary Flames

157) Matt Beleskey, Boston Bruins

158) Tobias Rieder, Arizona Coyotes

159) Victor Rask, Carolina Hurricanes

160) Zemgus Girgensons, Buffalo Sabres

161) Ales Hemsky, Dallas Stars

162) Tyler Bozak, Toronto Maple Leafs

163) Boone Jenner, Columbus Blue Jackets

164) Jussi Jokinen, Florida Panthers

165) David Desharnais, Montreal Canadiens

166) Marcus Johansson, Washington Capitals

167) Carl Soderberg, Colorado Avalanche

168) Justin Williams, Washington Capitals

169) Benoit Pouliot, Edmonton Oilers

170) Carl Hagelin, Anaheim Ducks

171) Brendan Gallagher, Montreal Canadiens

172) Sean Couturier, Philadelphia Flyers

173) Brad Richards, Detroit Red Wings

174) Joel Ward, San Jose Sharks

175) Lars Eller, Montreal Canadiens

176) Drew Stafford, Winnipeg Jets

177) Troy Brouwer, St. Louis Blues

178) Chris Stewart, Anaheim Ducks

179) Clarke MacArthur, Ottawa Senators

180) Mike Fisher, Nashville Predators

181) Alex Killorn, Tampa Bay Lightning

182) Jason Zucker, Minnesota Wild

183) Tommy Wingels, San Jose Sharks

184) Brandon Pirri, Florida Panthers

185) Johan Franzen, Detroit Red Wings

186) Joffrey Lupul, Toronto Maple Leafs

187) Alex Burrows, Vancouver Canucks

188) Martin Hanzal, Arizona Coyotes

189) Tanner Pearson, Los Angeles Kings

190) Riley Sheahan, Detroit Red Wings

191) Reilly Smith, Florida Panthers

192) Nick Bonino, Pittsburgh Penguins

193) Milan Michalek, Ottawa Senators

194) Matt Nieto, San Jose Sharks

195) Matt Read, Philadelphia Flyers

196) Blake Comeau, Colorado Avalanche

197) Jacob Josefson, New Jersey Devils

198) J.T. Miller, New York Rangers

199) Dmitrij Jaskin, St. Louis Blues

200) Adam Lowry, Winnipeg Jets

201) Anton Lander, Edmonton Oilers

202) Antoine Vermette, Arizona Coyotes

203) Teddy Purcell, Edmonton Oilers

204) Mathieu Perreault, Winnipeg Jets

205) Kyle Palmieri, New Jersey Devils

206) Jimmy Hayes, Boston Bruins

207) Jiri Tlusty, New Jersey Devils

208) Tomas Fleischmann, Montreal Canadiens

209) Brad Boyes, Toronto Maple Leafs

210) Shane Doan, Arizona Coyotes

211) Dustin Brown, Los Angeles Kings

212) Brian Gionta, Buffalo Sabres

213) Kris Versteeg, Carolina Hurricanes

214) Mikhail Grabovski, New York Islanders

215) P.A. Parenteau, Toront Maple Leafs

216) Dylan Larkin, Detroit Red Wings (rookie)

217) Robby Fabbri, St. Louis Blues (rookie)

218) Viktor Arvidsson, Nashville Predators (rookie)

219) Mikko Rantanen, Colorado Avalanche (rookie)

220) Anthony Duclair, Arizona Coyotes (Rookie)

221) Brett Connolly, Boston Bruins

222) Calle Jarnkrok, Nashville Predators

223) Vincent Trocheck, Florida Panthers

224) Andre Burakovsky, Washington Capitals

225) Scott Laughton, Philadelphia Flyers

226) Rickard Rakell, Anaheim Ducks

227) Lance Bouma, Calgary Flames

228) Antoine Roussel, Dallas Stars

229) Andrew Cogliano, Anaheim Ducks

230) Cody Hodgson, Nashville Predators

231) Andrew Shaw, Chicago Blackhawks

232) Peter Holland, Toronto Maple Leafs

323) Dave Bolland, Florida Panthers

234) Shawn Matthias, Toronto Maple Leafs

235) Rene Bourque, Columbus Blue Jackets

236) Nathan Gerbe, Carolina Hurricanes

237) Patrick Maroon, Anaheim Ducks

238) Nikolai Kulemin, New York Islanders

239) Jannik Hansen, Vancouver Canucks

* 240) Patrik Elias, New Jersey Devils (knee)

* 241) Darren Helm, Detroit Red Wings (concussion)

* 242) Pascal Dupuis, Pittsburgh Penguins (lower-body)

* 243) Chris Higgins, Vancouver Canucks (foot)

* 244) Justin Fontaine, Minnesota Wild (oblique)

20-to-40 Points

Alex Burmistrov Jets
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Alex Burmistrov is back in North America — back in the fold for the Winnipeg Jets — after spending a couple seasons in Russia’s KHL.

245) Alex Burmistrov, Winnipeg Jets

246) Curtis Lazar, Ottawa Senators

247) Tomas Jurco, Detroit Red Wings

248) Jesper Fast, New York Rangers

249) Marcus Foligno, Buffalo Sabres

250) Sam Gagner, Philadelphia Flyers

251) Chris Tierney, San Jose Sharks

252) Teemu Pulkkinen, Detroit Red Wings

253) Markus Granlund, Calgary Flames

254) Johan Larsson, Buffalo Sabres

255) Mikhail Grigorenko, Colorado Avalanche

256) Emerson Etem, New York Rangers

257) Beau Bennett, Pittsburgh Penguins

258) Tom Wilson, Washington Capitals

259) R.J. Umberger, Philadelphia Flyers

260) Matt Cullen, Pittsburgh Penguins

261) Jamie McGinn, Buffalo Sabres

262) Bryan Bickell, Chicago Blackhawks

263) Brooks Laich, Washington Capitals

264) Lee Stempniak, New Jersey Devils

265) David Clarkson, Columbus Blue Jackets

266) Viktor Stalberg, New York Rangers

267) Oscar Lindberg, New York Rangers (Rookie)

268) Anton Slepyshev, Edmonton Oilers (rookie)

269) Mattias Janmark, Dallas Stars (rookie)

270) Shane Prince, Ottawa Senators (rookie)

271) Jake Virtanen, Vancouver Canucks (rookie)

272) Nic Petan, Winnipeg Jets (rookie)

273) Matt Puempel, Ottawa Senators (rookie)

274) Matt Calvert, Columbus Blue Jackets

275) Luke Glendening, Detroit Red Wings

276) Erik Condra, Tampa Bay Lightning

277) Steve Bernier, New York Islanders

278) Scottie Upshall, St. Louis Blues

279) Trevor Lewis, Los Angeles Kings

280) Riley Nash, Carolina Hurricanes

281) Marcus Kruger, Chicago Blackhawks

* 282) Joe Colborne, Calgary Flames (thumb)

283) Patrick Eaves, Dallas Stars

284) Alex Chiasson, Ottawa Senators

285) Daniel Winnik, Toronto Maple Leafs

286) John Mitchell, Colorado Avalanche

287) Ryan Garbutt, Chicago Blackhawks

288) Jay Beagle, Washington Capitals

289) Michael Grabner, Toronto Maple Leafs

290) Casey Cizikas, New York Islanders

291) Lauri Korpikoski, Edmonton Oilers

292) Eric Fehr, Pittsburgh Penguins

293) David Jones, Calgary Flames

294) Mark Letestu, Edmonton Oilers

295) Jordan Weal, Los Angeles Kings (Rookie)

296) William Karlsson, Columbus Blue Jackets (rookie)

297) Kyle Baun, Chicago Blackhawks (rookie)

298) Rocco Grimaldi, Florida Panthers (rookie)

299) Jared McCann, Vancouver Canucks (rookie)

300) Steve Downie, Arizona Coyotes

301) Derek Dorsett, Vancouver Canucks

302) Cal Clutterbuck, New York Islanders

303) Micheal Ferland, Calgary Flames

304) Kyle Clifford, Los Angeles Kings

305) Devante Smith-Pelly, Montreal Canadiens

306) Viktor Tikhonov, Chicago Blackhawks

307) Leo Komarov, Toronto Maple Leafs

308) Jarret Stoll, New York Rangers

309) Tuomo Ruutu, New Jersey Devils

310) Jack Skille, Colorado Avalanche

311) Mike Santorelli, Anaheim Ducks

312) Chris Vande Velde, Philadelphia Flyers

313) David Legwand, Buffalo Sabres

314) Vincent Lecavalier, Philadelphia Flyers

315) Chris Kelly, Boston Bruins

316) Jason Chimera, Washington Capitals

(Marc DesRosiers-USA TODAY Sports) Pageau or Paquette? That'll only become a question for those of you in the deepest of deep leagues. But both Jean-Gabriel Pageau and Paquette are likely to be waiver claims at some point this season once injuries start to take their toll.
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Pageau or Paquette? That’ll only become a question for those of you in the deepest of deep leagues. But both Jean-Gabriel Pageau and Cedric Paquette are likely to be waiver claims at some point this season once injuries start to take their toll.

317) Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Ottawa Senators

318) Cedric Paquette, Tampa Bay Lightning

319) Pierre-Edouard Bellemare, Philadelphia Flyers

320) Mark Arcobello, Toronto Maple Leafs

321) Torrey Mitchell, Montreal Canadiens

322) Colton Sceviour, Dallas Stars

323) Erik Haula, Minnesota Wild

324) Andrej Nestrasil, Carolina Hurricanes

325) Zack Smith, Ottawa Senators

326) Ben Smith, San Jose Sharks

327) Vladislav Namestnikov, Tampa Bay Lightning

328) Reid Boucher, New Jersey Devils

329) Alexander Wennberg, Columbus Blue Jackets

330) Chris Terry, Carolina Hurricanes

331) J.T. Brown, Tampa Bay Lightning

332) Josh Jooris, Calgary Flames

333) Nicolas Deslauriers, Buffalo Sabres

334) Andrew Desjardins, Chicago Blackhawks

335) Vernon Fiddler, Dallas Stars

336) Stanislav Galiev, Washington Capitals (rookie)

337) Andrew Copp, Winnipeg Jets (rookie)

338) Tyler Graovac, Minnesota Wild (rookie)

339) Barclay Goodrow, San Jose Sharks

340) Nick Shore, Los Angeles Kings

341) Quinton Howden, Florida Panthers

342) Sergey Kalinin, New Jersey Devils (rookie)

343) Joonas Kemppainen, Boston Bruins (rookie)

344) Connor Brickley, Florida Panthers (rookie)

345) Auston Watson, Nashville Predators

346) Stefan Matteau, New Jersey Devils

347) Matt Hendricks, Edmonton Oilers

348) Chris Thorburn, Winnipeg Jets

349) Brandon Prust, Vancouver Canucks

350) Kyle Brodziak, St. Louis Blues

351) Brian Boyle, Tampa Bay Lightning

352) Matt Stajan, Calgary Flames

353) Scott Gomez, St. Louis Blues

354) Drew Miller, Detroit Red Wings

355) Steve Ott, St. Louis Blues

356) Joakim Andersson, Detroit Red Wings

357) Dwight King, Los Angeles Kings

358) Dan Cleary, Detroit Red Wings

* 359) Zack Kassian, Montreal Canadiens (rehab)

* 360) Brett Ritchie, Dallas Stars (wrist)

* 361) Patrik Berglund, St. Louis Blues (shoulder)

362) Mason Raymond, Calgary Flames

363) Richard Panik, Toronto Maple Leafs

364) Linden Vey, Vancouver Canucks

365) Melker Karlsson, San Jose Sharks

366) Andy Andreoff, Los Angeles Kings

367) Magnus Paajarvi, St. Louis Blues

368) Jordon Schroeder, Minnesota Wild

369) Ronalds Kenins, Vancouver Canucks

Prospect Watch

NOTE: These prospects are starting the season in the AHL, but could make a fantasy impact if they get called up at some point.

1) Leon Draisaitl, Edmonton Oilers

2) Marko Dano, Chicago Blackhawks

3) Kevin Fiala, Nashville Predators

4) Nikolay Goldobin, San Jose Sharks

5) Nikita Scherbak, Montreal Canadiens

6) Alexander Khokhlachev, Boston Bruins

7) Ty Rattie, St. Louis Blues

8) Steve Moses, Nashville Predators

9) Joel Armia, Winnipeg Jets

10) Sven Andrighetto, Montreal Canadiens

11) Kerby Rychel, Columbus Blue Jackets

12) Jacob De La Rose, Montreal Canadiens

13) Ryan Hartman, Chicago Blackhawks

14) Curtis McKenzie, Dallas Stars

Free-Agent Watch

NOTE: These forwards remain unrestricted free agents, but could make a fantasy impact if they are signed before or during the season.

1) Martin Havlat

2) Derek Roy

3) David Booth

4) Curtis Glencross

5) Sean Bergenheim

6) Tomas Kopecky

7) James Sheppard

8) Stephen Weiss

9) Erik Cole

10) Devin Setoguchi

11) Michael Ryder

12) Tyler Kennedy

13) Brenden Morrow

14) Olli Jokinen

15) Dainius Zubrus

16) Daniel Paille

* 17) Mike Richards (facing drug charges)

Larry Fisher is a sports reporter for The Daily Courier in Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada. Follow him on Twitter: @LarryFisher_KDC.