Jonathan Toews or Patrick Kane, Who Would You Choose?

Let’s play a game of “Who would you pick?” If forced to give a definitive answer, would you choose Jonathan Toews or Patrick Kane? Both have been instrumental in Chicago’s pair of Stanley Cup Championships in the past four years, and both have plenty of years left. However, one may prove to be more valuable to the franchise than the other, turning the hypothetical question into an observation worth recognizing.

Jonathan Toews Or Patrick Kane? – By The Numbers

With both players entering the NHL in the 2007-08 season, the playing field is nearly level when tracking statistics. By the numbers alone, Patrick Kane is easily superior. Throughout their time together, including the 60 games leading up to this year’s Olympic break, Toews has scored more points than Kane in a single season only one time (2010-11) – a three point difference with Toews (76 points) playing seven more games than Kane (73 points).

In playoff action, the numbers still favor Kane. The 25-year-old assistant captain’s 71 playoff points bests Toews’ 64, despite Kane playing one less playoff game. Kane further builds a case with not only his prolific scoring, but his timely scoring. After all, it was Kane, not Toews, who scored the Game 6 overtime game-winning goal in the 2010 Stanley Cup Finals against the Philadelphia Flyers.

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It’s clutch performances that that have Kane’s teammates no longer surprised. “Sure enough, it’s little Kaner,” said teammate Duncan Keith after Kane’s game-winning goal in 2010. “He’s scored big goals for us all year.”

Jonathan Toews Or Patrick Kane? – Hardware

Would you choose Jonathan Toews or Patrick Kane? Both are Conn Smythe Trophy winners.
Patrick Kane was awarded last year’s Conn Smythe Trophy, but Jonathan Toews was younger when the captain won his.(Greg M. Cooper-USA TODAY Sports)

Both Toews and Kane are accomplished at the shared age of 25. The two have won a pair of Stanley Cups together, with each claiming the Conn Smythe Trophy in separate Cup Finals. When Toews secured his Conn Smythe in 2010, however, he became the second youngest to ever win it.

When Kane accepted his last year, he did so by scoring nine goals and 10 assists. His 19 points were 10 less than Toews’ 29 points scored throughout the 2010 playoffs, despite scoring two more goals than Toews in the respective years.

Finding separation between the two in the trophy case may be problematic, especially since they’re teammates. But for Toews, the Olympics have been the stage he’s used to catapult him over Kane. With Canada’s most recent victory over the Americans, Toews is now 2-for-2 when going against Kane on the international stage.

While there are those who say that the Canadian team is overwhelmingly better than the U.S.’s, the gap between the two has certainly shrunk. In their last two meetings, both games were determined by one goal. And despite the fact that Kane and his Olympic teammates failed to medal in Sochi, the competitiveness between the national teams and NHL teammates was at an all-time high.

“Everyone respects the players they have and what they’ve done as a country in the past,” said Kane prior to their tilt. “They’re the defending champions … they have some great players over there.

“At the same time, we have a chance to try to prove that we’re in the same sentence with Canada. That’s something USA Hockey has been trying to do for a long time is prove that we can play with the Canadians and the Russians and the Swedes and Finns consistently on a tournament basis. We have that chance (Friday); hopefully we can take advantage of it.”

Kane rejoins the Blackhawks with four assists in six games to show for. His average ice time of 17:42 reveals his prominent role for Team USA, which makes the outcome of his Sochi experience all the more disappointing. Toews, on the other hand, added a goal and two assists for Canada to go along with yet another gold medal. But since his game isn’t predicated on pure scoring, his increased ice time in Canada’s shut out effort against Team USA is witness to his defensive command.

Jonathan Toews Or Patrick Kane? – All Around Game

Although it’s abundantly clear that Patrick Kane is the richer of the two when it comes to scoring, other attributes should and do factor in. The plus-minus stat, although not as sexy or eye catching as goal scoring, is quite useful in determining other aspects of one’s game. And for Jonathan Toews, it’s a tier in which he stands out.

To counter Kane’s glamorous scoring, Toews does hold the plus-minus advantage in both the regular season and playoffs. Toews’ plus-136 up-to-date regular season rating dwarfs Kane’s plus-41 rating. Their playoff plus-minus comparison follows the trend as well. Not only does Toews stand at plus-7 over 75 postseason appearances, Kane’s minus-four rating is quite unforeseen.

And while Toews’ all around plus-minus may shed light on his defensive excellence, it doesn’t begin to illustrate the full picture. Toews’ defensive efforts last season earned him the Frank J. Selke Trophy, which is annualy awarded to the best defensive forward in the league. In doing so, Toews edged out worthy candidates such as Patrice Bergeron and Pavel Datsyuk.

“Toews, 25, ranked second on the Blackhawks with 48 points (23G, 25A) and ranked third in the NHL with a career-high plus-28 rating in 47 regular-season games. He also shared the league lead with 56 takeaways and ranked second in the NHL with a Western Conference-best 59.9 faceoff percentage.” — NHL.com

Toews became the third Blackhawk in franchise history to win the Selke Trophy, and the first since the 1990-91 season when Dirk Graham won it. Patrick Kane’s defense, though, has been the one chink in his armor. Kane’s phenomenal ability to score may masquerade his sluggish defensive efforts at times to a certain extent, but as explained, it can leave the Blackhawks vulnerable.

“There isn’t a lot to be critical about with Kane’s game, but there is one thing that he is going to need to work on for next season, and that is his fluctuating level of effort defensively.

In most games this season, Kane did a very good job of aggressively pursuing the puck in the neutral zone, both on the forecheck and the backcheck, but there were intervals in which he looked slightly disinterested.” — NBC Chicago, 2013

Jonathan Toews Or Patrick Kane? – An Edge In Leadership

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Jonathan Toews was named the 34th captain in Blackhawks history at the age of 20. At 22, Toews won his first Stanley Cup.

Toews doesn’t hold onto the arbitrarily plucked plus-minus stat to state his case, however. The 25-year-old captain possesses other rare qualities that make him one of, if not thee best in the game.

‘‘It’s the intangibles that separate him,’’ said former teammate Sean O’Donnell of Toews. ‘‘Obviously, he’s a talented guy, and there’s lots of talented guys in this league, but the ‘not being denied,’ that will, the desire, whatever you want to call it that he has, you just can’t make it up.

‘‘You either have it or you don’t. He’s got it.’’

In terms of leadership, Toews is second-to-none, growing from a timid leader, to being the benchmark of what a captain is.

“I think he has an aura about him and a myth about his leadership, but if you’ve played with him it’s definitely no myth,” said Blackhawks forward Kris Versteeg. “He’s the real deal. I come back now and instead of this little kid standing in the middle of the room pleading for help, you have this confident young man there now.”

Although Sidney Crosby was chosen to captain Team Canada in Sochi, Toews’ leadership certainly didn’t go unnoticed. That’s because Crosby, who was the captain in the 2010 Vancouver games, actually cleared the issue with Toews before accepting the title.

“Sidney Crosby wanted to make sure it was OK with him, just for the fact that he had won a couple Cups,” said Canada head coach Mike Babcock. “He’s held in high regard, to say the least, amongst coaches, amongst management, amongst players. He’s a huge part of the reason why [the Blackhawks] win as much as they do.”

Crosby may have been named the captain, but Toews’ notable leadership wasn’t dismissed. He, along with Nashville Predators defenseman Shea Weber, were named the assistant captains for Canada.

“I never gave it to him,” Babcock said of Toews. “He earned the right. He’s won two Cups. He’s won an Olympic Gold. He’s won a World Juniors. I don’t know what else he’s won. He might have won more than that. He’s a pro. He does it every day. He’s a 200-footer.

“To me he’s an impressive, impressive man. He’s a guy, when we were talking about it, Sidney Crosby wanted to make sure it was OK with him because of the fact that he’s won a couple Cups. He’s held in high regard to say the least amongst coaches, amongst management, amongst players and he’s a huge reason they win as much as they do.”

Jonathan Toews Or Patrick Kane – Will It Be A Choice?

Toews and Kane are not only different in style on the ice, they’re also contrasting off the ice as well. Their brotherly friendship, however, demonstrates just how much they enjoy having fun. In an effort to avoid separating the two, GM Stan Bowman has vowed to re-sign both stars.

“Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane will be here forever,” said Bowman. “I can’t predict what the salary cap will be in the near future, but I can tell you that Jonathan and Patrick will be on this team.”

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Both Kane and Toews are due to become unrestricted free agents after the 2014-15 season, which buys Bowman some time to figure it all out. But with over $171 million wrapped up in long-term deals with Marian Hossa, Duncan Keith, and Corey Crawford, budgeting for Kane and Toews may not be as easy as advertised.

“Those two players put the Blackhawks back on the map, they’re up in a couple years, and whatever the numbers are, we’ll figure out the details,” added Bowman. “The notion that the money we’re spending now will affect our ability to keep Jonathan and Kane…it’s a non-issue.

“They will be here no matter what.”

Toews and Kane jokingly addressed the issue this past December in an impromptu interview with ESPN:

Kane: It’s funny that people even bring it up now. We just got over the hump of our five-year contract. It’s still two years away. I mean, who knows what’s going to happen in that amount of time? I’m sure you want to stay here, Jonny. I’d love to stay here, too.

Toews: Are you hinting at who deserves more?

Kane: I’m leaving if you make more. [Laughs.]

In the event they do part, who would you choose – Jonathan Toews or Patrick Kane?

 

12 thoughts on “Jonathan Toews or Patrick Kane, Who Would You Choose?”

  1. Jonathan Toews because he is the captain of the blackhawks and he won 2 stanley cups 2 gold medals from olympic games and 2 world juniors.For sure I choose him.

  2. Toews in a landslide for me. Tough, gritty, skilled, classy. Complete hockey player in the prime of his career.

  3. Socal Sioux,

    You sound like a Toews fanatic, but you obviously haven’t watched him play much in the NHL (and therefore haven’t seen Kane either). Toews and Kane don’t play on the same line, and have not going back at least as far as when Marion Hossa was signed prior to the 2009-2010 season. (They are paired together as the first forward line during 4 on 4 overtime play, and are both on the first power play unit.) Pretty hard for Kaner to be a “benny” when he and Tazer are on the ice together for roughly 3 minutes a game.

    If you want to analyze who benefits from what, we should also look at the fact that Toews consistently plays with top line talent, currently Olympians Hossa and Patrick Sharp. Whereas Kane racks up all of those points on the second line where I don’t think he has ever consistently had another All-Star or Olympian on his line. Ok, he did have an aging Handzus at center for last year’s playoffs and maybe half the games this season; Handzus was an Olympian. The Hawks’ struggles the past few years to find a true second line center are almost legendary. They even resorted to Kane playing center for awhile.

    If we wanted to be really critical we could point out that Marion Hossa is a future Hall of Famer who is often said to be one of the Top 5 two – way forwards in the league. He doesn’t get a lot of Selke consideration since he is not a center—huge points and turnover numbers, but no face off stats. Toews and Hossa are on the same line so Hossa surely contributes to Toews’ excellent plus/minus rating.

    That said, I’d choose Toews too. Although I think five years in the future it won’t be as clear a choice. Kane’s two – way game and leadership skills are dramatically improving. The good thing is we won’t have to choose. Regardless of what the author thinks about the Hawks’ long-term player commitments, Bowman is quite capable of planning ahead and budgeting for their twin contracts (currently the same dollars/terms and expected to be again). In addition to their obvious talents, John McDonough (team president and marketing guru) clearly recognizes the value of having their complementary personalities share the burden of being the faces of the franchise.

  4. I like Kane but he’s too streaky to be considered with the game’s biggest stars. Sometimes he’s a clutch player, sometimes-when his team really needs it(e.g. US at the Olympics)he isn’t. And he also frequently goes through long stretches without scoring a goal. He’s a great player. But the greatest ones are more reliable when it matters most.

  5. Socal sioux are you serious that Kane is a benefactor? Did you not see the americans powerplay in the olympics? Give the puck to Kane and let him work his magic. Id take Toews over Kane, but to say Kane is because of Toews is ridiculous

  6. Love Kaner, a great skater, puck handler, and so on. But Toews is the guy that makes this team go. He never quits, never slows down, and holds everyone accountable, including himself. Who knows what will happen, but the ‘Hawks can’t lose Toews. Kane? Well, don’t want to think about it but definitely want both to remain Blackhawks

  7. Kane: I’m leaving if you make more. [Laughs.]

    If Kane leaves that would be the biggest mistake of his life. There is a word for a winger that is fortunate enough to play alongside Toews. Benny. Which is short for benefactor.

    Throughout his career Toews has elevated good hockey players into greatness. If Kane leaves the next player to play with Toews will reap the rewards of Toews, hard work.

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