The 2012 Summer Goalie Market

42 thoughts on “The 2012 Summer Goalie Market”

1. What about cristobal huet? Does he come back to the NHL or stay overseas?

2. Funny how I inverted Sanford and Vokoun as the Penguins’ back-up and the goalie who flees to the KHL! Sanford has signed a one-year deal with Lokomotiv of the KHL, while Vokoun has signed a two-year deal with Pittsburgh after being traded there.

3. Bobrovsky is two yrs younger than Khudobin; expect bob to be Russia’s 2014 goalie as Varlamov has weak glove.  Think Varlamov the better goalie maybe, but not against smartest players.

4. …T.Thomas will be 39 next year.  Maybe better than Luongo this year, but not next.  Chicago’s philosophy was to go young.  It didn’t really work as the prospects weren’t great they traded for, but I’d guess they’ll keep going young.  Some teams only go with one goalie, some go with three or 4.
   I can see Edm giving Thomas a shot.  Boston would consider a 3rd goalie if they traded Thomas.
   Poulin looks better than Bernier, and Niederterer is a gem.  Nabokov is a suck.  Yes, I guess him as a tutor fits in with NYI…Bobrovsky is one of the best goalie assets in the game.  Unless his father is his agent he won’t be gifted away.

   • We’ll see if your predictions materialize in the next few weeks!

     • I didn’t predict nothing.  Y I liked this column and look at comment #s.  Teams don’t usually do what is rational with goaltending.  Washington took out a giant but easily lost the goaltending matchup:  Holtby against Lundqvist.  They should’ve traded for a G as soon as Vokoun went down (didn’t he get hurt?).    A Washington with big 3 intact shouldn’t have 22 yr old Holtby.  Toronto just missed playoffs last few years overplaying goalies with big contracts.  Chi with a keeper is a cup run and without isn’t in final four.  I’m assuming the reason Pittsburgh didn’t sweep to final is didn’t have a backup when Fleury sucked.  In Philly loss in 6, they finally did it right going down to 4th stringer Leighton.  No Pronger this yr.  The yr Chi won they wisely dumped $5M Huet in Minors.  I hate 3pt rule.  It means playing a soccer game gets you to playoffs whereas the Oilers teams lose by being exciting.  Reverse it so tie is penalized.  The three point rule is the only thing preventing NHL from recapturing 1980s scoring.  Who wouldn’t want to see Stamkos take a run at Hull’s single season goal total?
       I’m hoping Jets get Mason, Mason, Montoya, and Harding, and trade Pavelec for two 1st rounders.  Obviously goalies don’t want to be 4th stringers.

       • …Leighton himself was one of three Chi goalies, him, C.Anderson and someone else.  I would pick goalies willing to be in minors but don’t have personality stats; intangibles.  Goalies are head cases.  If Enroth was a little crappier, Buffalo would be okay.  But Miller had two goalies ahead of him; he wants to be #1.  The Wild platoon system worked, but you gotta figure trading one of them and something for a M.Koivu to play with Gabby was the right move (knowing now Gabby can be healthy).  Funny everyone saying Minnesota was best team in the league; they never add talent.
         Washington should’ve gone for it but have young assets.  There was a bar incident with E.Kane; Wpg and Ana won’t get Emery.  But he can fight players now that isn’t a #1 lock.

         • Mtl would like Emery to dress against Bos, I think.

         • …With injuries to Crsoby and Toews, I think E.Kane is Canada’s 2nd biggest FW lock; those stone footed 1998 and 2006 teams sucked on international ice.  Which is good because I doubt Canada’s goalies will be in top 5.  Canada has lost goaltending edge.

   • Poulin better than Bernier? not on this planet. the way the Isles are run, they could ruin any goaltender. The books still out on Bobrovsky- again Philly isnt exactly the model on how to groom a goalie for stardom. Bob is most likely a backup, until he gets tired of it and heads to the KHL

5. Boucher and Johnson really suck.  What is Aubin doing these days?

6. Good article.  NJ won’t go into next yr with 40 and 41 yr old goalies but maybe Hedberg would be #3.  Thought he would’ve won a Cup even without Bertuzzi but went with horrid prospect Auld.
   Bolland is almost as good an asset as Toews or Keith.  I’d love to see monster in Wpg but is not a good goalie.  Montoya puts up great stats.
   Switch the Bobrovsky and Bernier trades.  Bernier two yrs ago had great upside and you have Philly giving away a 23 yr old goalie for nothing.  Philly makes good trades; look at that rebuild on the fly.

7. Well now that Yzerman has said they are not at all interested in Luongo this needs to be reevaluated. And why would the Leafs end up with Bob when they clearly need someone with a bit more experience?

   • It’s not because Yzerman said that, that he is not interested in Luongo… Don’t believe everything you hear.

     • So that means we shouldn’t believe anything you’ve written then? Saying there would be no takers for Kipprusoff is proof enough you have no idea what you’re talking about.

       • I don’t have anything to hide, so you should believe me. Kipper might be traded, but I highly doubt it happens.

8. The Thomas/Chicago angle is interesting and makes sense, except for Bolland. Quenneville loves him, and a condition of Quenneville staying (and not going to Montreal) is he gets the roster he wants this year. Put Frolik, Bickell or possibly even Jimmy Hayes in there and you might have smething. although I think the B’s would have to sweeten it to get Hayes.

   • I know Bolland is well liked in Windy City, but I need to match the salaries to make the trade happen as both teams are near the cap. I don’t think the Bruins will trade Thomas for underperforming players like Frolik and Bickell. 

9. Great read Fred. Don’t see Bernier in Long Island at all though as I don’t think that Snow feels the need to add a guy with 48 games of experience when he can just recall K. Poulin or Anders Nilsson. KP and AN might need some more development, but I highly doubt Snow will trade away a third rounder and Niederreiter for a mostly unproven Bernier. We have two goalies in Bridgeport who are up and coming, no need to trade away assets, especially someone like Nino for another goalie.

   • Well I speculated on this one and I believe Bernier would do a great job with Naobokov as a mentor and he has learned a lot behind Quick and during the Stanley Cup playoffs. Poulin and Nilsson are unproven goaltenders and they need one more year of seasoning at least.

     • All great points, but if Snow’s track record has proven anything, it’s that he won’t deal a prospect to get a relative unknown back. With the problems on defense, Snow’s priority probably won’t be trading away assets to get something he is already stocked on.

       • Also, acquiring Bernier creates the same goaltending carousel that really hurt the Isles at the start of the 2011-2012 season when they had DP, Nabokov, and Montoya in net. The insurance for DP getting hurt is in Bridgeport. Trading away an asset like Nino and a third rounder to possibly have Bernier riding the pine behind Nabokov and a *healthy* DiPietro would do more harm than good in the long-term.

10. based on the entire post-deadline season for the Flames, I think it’s pretty safe to say Karlsson is done.  If Leland Irving re-signs (and Kiprusoff isn’t traded), he’s the backup.  Irving may not have finished the season very well, what with constantly bouncing between the NHL and AHL, getting a new kid, and losing the Heat starting job to Danny Taylor, but the Flames CLEARLY preferred Irving to Karlsson down the stretch.

    • Well Karlsson is on a one-way contract next season so he will be the Flames’ back-up unless they trade him to make room for Irving who’s more like the next Trevor Kidd if you want my opinion.

11. so, you figure Thomas will get a better return than Luongo?  (that’s the way i read it, anyway…and not sure I agree)

    • Yes, he will fetch a better return simply because he has a better contract than Luongo’s bloated contract and he has a Stanley Cup!

12. Good stuff, had no idea that many guys were gonna be on the market.  For what it’s worth, the Panthers latest is that they might want Markstrom to spend one more year in the AHL, meaning Clemmensen could be back.  With an aging, increasingly fragile Theodore (although he had a solid season), having a couple options behind him makes sense. 

    • Well, I really they need to bring Markstrom up so he can back-up Theo for one season before taking over as the team’s starter!

13. Not sure if Toronto wants a younger goalie, I think they might try and bring in a more veteran goalie like Vokoun, only because the two younger goaltenders didn’t work for them this year, but still a good article. 

    • Thanks, I think Bob and Reimer would push each other and make for a good competition for playing time.

    • They won’t bring in Vokoun. He called them last summer looking to sign and they told him they weren’t interested so why would he sign there now?

      • Exactly colchar, I reassessed the situation and I think Vokoun will head to the KHL next year.

14. Where did Vokoun end up?

    • Vokoun? With the Canucks.

15. Very well thought out and written article. Great read.

    • You’re very welcomed Bill!

16. I like it all except the Canucks back up will be Eddie Lack.

    • If they trade Bobby Lou, they will back-up Schneider with a veteran goalie, mark my words Andrew!

17. And Winnipeg has?

    • I updated the Jets as it was cut by mistake before publishing.

18. Being a loyal Bruins fan, I can assure you they are not looking to take on another journeyman goaltender. They have Anton Khudobin coming back on a one-way deal, so you can bank on him being the No. 2 or even 1a. And while I agree wholeheartedly that Thomas will be traded (and I, too, think to the Blackhawks) Boston won’t be needing Emery. I wouldn’t mind seeing Bolland in a Black & Gold uniform, they’re too stacked with bottom-6 forwards; they’re priority is a top-line winger. 

    Interesting read though…nicely done and well thought-out. 

    • Well, you might be right about Khudobin, but I simply included Emery to balance the salaries and avoid a menage-a-trois in Chicago with Crawford and Thomas. 

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